4. HARRY HOLLAND born 4th February 1915 at Atherton, Leigh Lancashire moved up to Rosyth in the 1920’s with his family to be the first tenants of 53 Parkside Street Rosyth. After leaving school he tried a number of jobs including ship breaking and training to be a butcher. He also joined the Territorial Army so when the war started he was conscripted into the Royal Horse Artillery. He was stationed at Bromley Kent manning an anti aircraft gun at the end of Morgan Road where he met Nellie and after fighting in Africa and Italy married her at the Parish Church Bromley, Kent on the 2nd of October 1945.They moved up to Rosyth after the war. He worked at the Naval Base Rosyth as a Blacksmith’s Hammerman. He died at 119 Parkside Street Rosyth on 15th December 1973 of bronchial carcinoma of the lungs. Son Thomas registered the death.
2. Thomas Alfred Holland b. 4th October 1950
Harry Holland b.9th October 1952 d.29th December 1952
Harry died at the Sick Childrens Hospital Edinburgh on 29th December 1952 of Congenital Heart Disease.
5. NELLIE MAY SMITH was born on 2nd September 1909 in Bromley Kent. She was in service when she was young and worked in the kitchens of the local school during the war. The school was bombed and the two wings were left while the middle was reduced to rubble. During another bombing raid she was in a shelter with her family. A bomb dropped close and the blast damaged her feet. She felt the effects for the remainder of her life. She died at Milesmark Hospital Dunfermline on 21st April 1971 of Adenocarcinoma of the uterus. Harry registered the death.
8. THOMAS HOLLAND was born in 1883 at Wigan Lancashire. He was a blacksmith working above ground at the colliery. He married Martha Ellen Marsh at St Nathaniel, Platt Bridge Wigan on the 14th August 1907. The couple had been staying at 101 Moss Lane Platt Bridge before the wedding. In 1911 the family were staying at 140 Mealhouse Lane Atherton. The family moved from Atherton to Kirkcaldy and then to 51 Parkside Street Rosyth with Maggie Payne around 1920. Thomas worked at the Naval Base Rosyth as a blacksmith till he retired.
9. MARTHA ELLEN MARSH born in 1886 at Westhoughton Lancs. When she married Thomas she is recorded as having no occupation. The census of 1911 shows she had lost 1 child by then. Martha died November 6th 1915 aged 29 at the home of her parents at 321 Church Street Westhoughton. and was interred at Westoughton Cemetry 3 days later, in the same year son Harry was born. She died of Pulmonary Phthisis and exhaustion. Husband Thomas registered the death
CHILDREN to Martha
John Holland b.
Thomas Holland b. 1912
4. Harry Holland b. 1915
Mary Holland b.
Children to Maggie Payne d. 1988
Alice Holland Payne b. 20/8/1921
Margaret Holland Payne
John Holland married Elizabeth Bernard and spent most of the Second World War in Malta. They returned to Rosyth where John worked as a blacksmith in the Dockyard. They had no children.
Mary Holland married Thomas Grieve in 1938 and they stayed all their married life in Dundee. Mary trained as a psychiatric nurse and worked in both Murthly Hospital in Perthshire and West Green Hospital Dundee. They had a daughter Margaret.
Thomas Holland married Hannah (Anna) Young from Whitley Bay. They stayed at 35 Parkside Street Rosyth. He died aged 30 on the railway line between Inverkeithing and Rosyth. They had 1 son Norman and he married Sue Phipps and had 2 daughters, 1 called Polly Anna. He was in the forces probably as a bandsman playing the trombone and afterwards played with the Rosemary Squires Band. The family stayed in Bristol. After the death of Tom, Hannah moved back to Whitley Bay and married Michael Pollard.
Studio photograph of Martha Marsh
Martha and Thomas
Maggie Payne with the family and neighbour at 53 Parkside Street Rosyth
Martha Marsh holding Harry just before her death
Market Place Wigan
16.. RALPH HOLLAND, born in 1845 at Skelmersdale Lancashire was a Blacksmith and worked at a colliery. He married Margaret Topping on the 8th November 1873 at the Parish Church, Wigan .His brother John witnessed the marriage. Before marriage he stayed at Pool Street, Poolstock and later moved to 101 Moss Lane Platt Bridge.
17. MARGARET TOPPING was born in 1847 at Wigan. She had her daughter Mary Jane in 1870 and stayed with her mother at Patricks Row Wigan enabeling her to continue her employment as a cotton weaver till her marriage to Ralph. She was either pregnant with son John or he was months old when they married.
Mary Holland b. 1870 at Wigan
John Holland b. 1873 at Wigan d. 26/12/1905. Interred Ince Cemetry Platt Bridge
Ralph Holland b.1875 at Wigan
Elizabeth Holland b. 1876 at Wigan married Robert Smallshaw.
8. Thomas Holland b. 1881 at Wigan
Henry Holland b. 1884 at Wigan
William Holland b. 1886 at Rainford
Benjamin Holland b. 1890 at Rainford
An old blacksmiths forge.
32. JOHN HOLLAND born at Upholland around 1813. He was a sawyer.
33. ANN , wife of John Holland, surname unknown. She was born at Lathom, Lancashire.
Ellen Holland b. 1835
Christopher Holland b. 1844
Jane Holland b. 1841
Elizabeth Holland b. 1843
16. Ralph Holland b. 1845
Mary Holland b. 1847
Alice Holland b. 1849
John Holland b. 1850
Thomas Holland b. 18
Sawyer is an occupational term referring to someone who saws wood. He could use a pit saw either in a saw pit or with the log on trestles above ground and could operate a sawmill.
Old Painting of Upholland
The church at Upholland today .
A short history of the Holland name.
In 1066 the manor of HOLLAND or Upholland was held by Steinulf; it was assessed as two plough-lands and worth 64d. Nothing further is known of its tenure until 1212, when it together with Melling was held in thegnage by Henry de Melling; of him Matthew and Alan held the two plough-lands in Upholland by a rent of 12s. a year. Ten years earlier Matthew de Holland—or Holand, as the name was usually spelt—held fourteen oxgangs here, to which Uctred de Church quitclaimed all his right. Nothing further seems to be known of Alan, the joint tenant with Matthew. The latter was a benefactor of Cockersand Abbey.
In 1224 Simon de Halsall quitclaimed to Robert de Holland all his right in the two plough-lands in Upholland. The relationship of this Robert to his predecessor Matthew does not appear in the records. He was the ancestor of the great Holand family. His last appearance was to answer a charge of setting fire to one of the rector's houses in Wigan in 1241; he and his son Thurstan were lodged in prison, but released till the trial.
Thurstan is said to have married a daughter of Adam de Kellet; eventually the lordship of Nether Kellet descended to his heirs by this wife. He also acquired lands in Hale, and large grants in Makerfield. Sir Robert de Holland, the son of Thurstan, who succeeded about 1276, married Elizabeth daughter and co-heir of Sir William de Samlesbury.
Robert's son and namesake, Sir Robert de Holland, became one of the leading men in the county, being a favourite official of Thomas, Earl of Lancaster, from whom he secured an alteration in the tenure of Upholland, which does not seem to have been permanent. He extended his possessions by a marriage with Maud, daughter and co-heir of Alan de la Zouch,and had many grants from his patron the earl; some of these were held to be invalid. He was summoned to Parliament as Lord Holland from 1314 to 1321. He took part in the earl's rebellion, and all his lands were forfeited; he himself was murdered in October 1328, it is said by followers of the earl who regarded him either as a coward or a traitor. Among his other acts was the foundation of the priory at Upholland in 1310 to 1317. This was practically the conclusion of the family's active interest in the manor.
The forfeiture of the estates was in 1328 reversed by Edward III, and Holland descended regularly to Sir Robert's son, Robert, who distinguished himself in the French wars, and died 16 March 1372–3; and to the latter's granddaughter Maud, who married John Lovel, fifth Lord Lovel of Titchmarsh. She survived her husband, and died 4 May 1423, holding the manor of Upholland of the king as Duke of Lancaster in socage (a feudal tenure of land involving payment of rent or other non-military service to a superior) by the ancient rent of 12s.; also the manors of Halewood, Walton in West Derby, Nether Kellet, half of Samlesbury, Orrell, and a quarter of Dalton, burgages in Wigan and Lancaster, and lands in Aughton, Cuerdley, and Ditton. The other estates had descended to her father Robert's brother John, as heir male, and he was succeeded by Henry Holland, Duke of Exeter.
Holland Crest. Azure semeé de lis lion rampant guardant argent.
Lady Lovel's son John having died in 1414, Upholland was inherited by her grandson William, seventh Lord Lovel and fourth Lord Holland. It descended on his death in 1455 to his son John, Lord Lovel, who died ten years later, and then to the latter's son and heir Francis, created Viscount Lovel in 1483. Adhering to the cause of Richard III he had many offices and honours bestowed upon him; but was attainted by Henry VII in 1485 and his honours and lands were forfeited. Two years later he fought on the Yorkist side at the battle of Stoke, and was either killed there or died soon afterwards.
Upholland and the other forfeited manors were retained by the Crown until 25 February 1488–9, when they were granted to Thomas, Earl of Derby, with the lands and manors of other Yorkists. It continued to descend with Lathom and Knowsley until 1717, when it was sold by Lady Ashburnham, as heir of William, the ninth earl, to Thomas Ashhurst of Ashhurst in Dalton. In 1751 Henry Ashhurst sold it to Sir Thomas Bootle of Lathom, and it has since descended with his manors, the Earl of Lathom being the present lord.